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UK Government admits to military ‘mentoring’ team in Libya, refuses to discuss special forces operations

7 June 2011 12,741 views 9 Comments

By the Editor.

Immediately after the onset of Operation Odyssey Dawn, the British media was replete with reports of British boots on the ground in Libya. Such a flagrant violation of international law (and the UN resolution that NATO purports to be acting on) prompted me to write to my elected representative for some answers. On Tuesday 29 March – 11 days after the start of NATO’s illegal aggression, I wrote to Julian Huppert – Member of Parliament for Cambridge.

2 months later, I have now received a response which came from Nick Harvey MP, Minister for the Armed Forces. I’ve included Harvey’s response in full as well as my original email sent to Mr. Huppert.

Without feeling the need to provide an iota of evidence, right off the bat Harvey started peddling the confirmed lies about Gaddafi supposedly ‘attacking his own people’:

As a permanent member of the United Nations (UN) Security Council, the United Kingdom could not stand by and watch as Gaddafi attacked and murdered his own people.

Apparently UK-US intelligence cooperation has some room for improvement; Harvey is blissfully unaware that the Pentagon themselves have admitted that the ‘Gaddafi firing on his own people’ story is bullshit:

Q: Do you see any evidence that he actually has fired on his own people from the air? There were reports of it, but do you have independent confirmation? If so, to what extent?

SEC. GATES: We’ve seen the press reports, but we have no confirmation of that.

ADM. MULLEN: That’s correct. We’ve seen no confirmation whatsoever.

He then admits to what is already public knowledge: that the UK does have ‘advisers’ in Libya, directing the al-Qaeda-linked and CIA-led ‘rebels’:

The UK has deployed a small military mentoring team to advise the Transitional National Council on how to improve their military organisational structures, communications and logistics.

The presence of British special forces in Libya is abundantly clear both from the plentiful press reports, and from the fact that such a presence is a logistical necessity for the coordination of airstrikes. Predictably, Harvey refuses to comment:

In relation to the media reporting of Special Forces’ involvement in Libya, it is the long-standing policy of the Government not to comment on operations involving either UK or other nations’ Special Forces.

I can’t say I’m surprised at this wet, cagey response but there you have it. See below for the email and letter in their entirety.

From: (Name removed for privacy)
To: julianhuppertmp@gmail.com
Sent: Tue, 29 March, 2011 13:12:33
Subject: UK troops in Libya

Dear Mr Huppert,

I have seen some concerning news reports in the British media regarding the involvement of British troops within Libya. Despite the fact that the UN resolution passed does not allow for foreign troops on the ground in the country, this seems to be taking place. See the following news reports for example:

The bombing of the country came as it was revealed that hundreds of British special forces troops have been deployed deep inside Libya targeting Colonel Gaddafi’s forces and more are on standby.

While Chancellor George Osborne repeated that UK ground troops would not be involved, the Daily Mail can reveal there are an estimated 350 already mounting covert operations.

In total it is understood that just under 250 UK special forces soldiers and their support have been in Libya since before the launch of air strikes to enforce the no-fly zone against Gaddafi’s forces.

The troops in Libya were drawn from a squadron of SAS and SBS personnel, some who have been in the country for a month and are being re-supplied with water, food and ammunition via airdrops from Cyprus.

Those numbers were further boosted by nearly 100 this week when paratroopers from the Special Forces Support Group (SFSG) were sent to Libya as coalition commanders prepare to increase the tempo of operations.

A further 800 Royal Marines are on five days’ notice to deploy to the Mediterranean to support humanitarian relief and aid operations.

The beefing up of the Special Forces contingent comes as commanders switch attacks against command and control centres to low-level attacks against Gaddafi’s tanks.

Hundreds of British SAS soldiers have been operating with rebel groups inside Libya for three weeks, the Sunday Mirror can reveal today.

Sources:

Crack SAS troops hunt Gaddafi weapons inside Libya
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/03/20/crack-sas-troops-hunt-gaddafi-weapons-inside-libya-115875-23002207/

Libya: SAS ready to seize Col Gaddafi’s stores of mustard gas
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8355955/Libya-SAS-ready-to-seize-Col-Gaddafis-stores-of-mustard-gas.html

Libya: Africans offer to host peace talks between rebels and Gaddafi
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1369763/Libya-Africans-offer-host-peace-talks-rebels-Gaddafi.html#ixzz1HcHRdOz7

I’m sure you will appreciate the very serious nature of our deploying troops on the ground while publically guaranteeing not to do so.

Can you unequivocally confirm that British forces are not on the ground in Libya?

Yours Sincerely,
(Name removed for privacy)
(Address removed for privacy)

Response from Nick Harvey MP, Minister for the Armed Forces (I’ve removed my name and address details):

9 Comments »

  • Jiff davis said:

    Kinetic Lies and deception in Libya.

    Lets look at the propaganda smear campaign being waged against Libya and it’s leaders and ask if the media is telling even half the truth and if our leaders have become predictable liars and are taking us all for fools.

    So OK it’s not a war when you drop bombs and deliberately try to assassinate a world leader or supply weapons to ex Al-CIAda rebels on the ground so that they can march into major cities with these guns the French have given our friendly rebels who will kill anyone who shows support to a leader that has turned a dead end country into one that has the best hospitals and universities on the African continent.

    This war that started out as a no fly zone that is still not a war because Obama pulled the word ‘Kinetic’ from his a$$ and has a blank cheque from the UN’s resolution 1973 that says ‘All necessary means to defend civilians’ must be the biggest scam going.

    I would like such words in a contract that allowed me to investigate and prosecute international bankers around the world for the fraud they have committed that includes the term ‘All necessary means to prosecute bankers/fraudster and acts of treason’ but I don’t think I will get one.

    This is not an NATO action because only three of it’s members are taking part in the daily attacks on a sovereign state and some are calling for an immediate cease fire but clearly our leaders are playing with words and for this reason Congress did not approve Obama’s new war on terror (yes we hear it every day, Muslims under my bed) but Congress still approved funding for the war, Sorry ‘Kinetic Military Action’ which not only goes to show how useless they are but also shows little respect for the American public when 80% are apposed to the war.

    Looking at the Arab spring uprising we can see that all the protests started in the major cities and yet in Libya we are to believe farm peasants out in the middle of no where eventually found the courage to rise up in the desert to attack Libyan forces and the ninety nine percent of people in Tripoli who hated Gaddffi’s guts stayed at home.

    Quite to the contrary Colonel Gaddffi has a lot of support from the people of Libya and not just from his own tribal clan and apart from pro Gaddffi demonstrations around the world, (not reported in the news) we also have growing support from the people of Libya who are tired of these bombs of love that NATO keeps dropping and sure we have defectors that joined the rebels but what you won’t learn from the news is that some rebels have defected back over to government side.

    The real reason we had peasants rising up from the outskirts of the country was because CIA/MOSSAD agents could operate in these areas by handing out free money , guns, propaganda and then flee back across the borders of neighbouring countries when challenged by Libyan forces but still they managed to present to us on main stream news channels a groups of rebels playing chicken with troops in the middle of desert night after night, same pickup trucks, same guns, same faces just like you would expect from a low budget film made in China.

    Gaddafi did not play the United Nations part in this play script where he was supposed to surrender to the first group of rag tag rebels and offer them his country that he had spent a life time building to become the most open and affluent place in Africa complete with hospitals to shame many in Europe and Universities where students didn’t need to pay a fortune to gain an education.

    Libya has several tribal factions and it would to stupid to suggest all were treated equally by the government but Gaddffi did manage to hold the tribes together and that often involved brutal suppression of opposing forces but if you look towards the UK then most people from Scotland will tell you that people in London always received a bigger slice of the cake and look how many people the British have killed in Ireland who only wanted their own land back.

    Russia and China both abstained from voting on resolution 1973 and now say they have been mislead by the UN and would had used veto powers had they known how far the resolution was going to be extended, twisted, exaggerated and this is why they used veto powers when next asked about dealing with Syria so you can see these two have not been fooled and nor has the African Union who have repeatedly tried to broker a peace deal only to be turned down by Mrs Clinton and here chums who want the gas and oil and needed to stop Gaddffi creating a gold backed currency and therefore allowing people to opt out of the western corrupt banking system that pays 0.5% less tax for looking after peoples savings despite most of these banks being on the verge of bankruptcy.

    The puppets in the USA want a return of boom and bust so the elite can milk the public dry and world war two ended the great depression in the 1930’s and these puppets think they can make it a double hat trick without realising the world has changed and Britannia no longer rules the waves.

    The UK says it is only targeting military installations, the UK claims to have carried out thousands of sorties bombing Libya from 50,000 feet only killing the odd civilian on the ground and all at a cost of a mere £260 million pounds, the UK lies when a single stealth bomber cost as much as $2 billion each.

    Most of what has been written above can be verified but lets move on to the fog of war or what I would call outright lies and propaganda and lets look at these allegations of Viagra, Rape, Murder, Genocide and skip over claims that Gaddffi eats children for breakfast or kills any woman that won’t sleep with him.

    The English would know all about drugs and war or did you think the opium war with China was about keeping drugs out of the UK and going back to Vietnam we can see the Americans were using large quantities of drugs but more recently we have the ten year Afghanistan war on drugs and yet the drugs now being exported out from Afghanistan has increased by a factor of four since the Taliban was kicked out and apart from that we now have solders becoming drug barons.

    Nope if you want to know about drugs and war then may I suggest that the best person to ask is Oliver North.

    I’m quite sure Rape is being committed by both sides in this CIA induced war but that does not mean the orders have come from the top and yet all we get on the TV is stories of one side committing rape but ask yourself would rebels not be more incline to commit rape when they are foreign mercenaries or would disciplined army troops do this to their own people.

    Murder is not something that happens when two groups of people are taking pot shots at each other or an paid agent is captured and it’s a fair bet to say that scores are being settled on both sides to some extent but dropping bombs on civilians from 50,000 feet is Murder especially when you consider that according to Obama this is not a war.

    Genocide well that’s a good one when you look at what happened to American Indians and the US Support for Israel in stealing more and more land and then shooting anyone who wants their land back or supporting a country that bans humanitarian aid to the Gaza strip but looking back at Libya the only acts of Genocide being committed and again not reported by the main stream press is the deliberate act by the rebels to execute and remove all the blacks in Libya.

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